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November 11, 2003

counting

Do you ever look around a room and just count? This is something that i picked up in college. How many people in the room appear to identify as women? How many people in the room appear to look non-white? What about non-white and non-Asian in tech world? How many might be read as queer? How many might be read as identifying with a less-than-mainstream subculture?

I started this in college when (during one of the "how to be a better teacher" lectures) i heard that when the room is 30% women, it feels like it's half and half. Scan a room. Guess the percentage of men/women and then count. How good are you at guessing?

I wasn't the only one who counted. I remember talking to a student of mine, asking why he stopped participating in class. He asked me if i counted how many other black students there were, how many gay students. He said that he was afraid to speak up, afraid to say something wrong, to make it seem like all blacks are stupid, that all gays are stupid. I knew many women who were afraid to speak out of fear that they were speaking for the women missing from the room.

When we count, we can be aware. But sometimes awareness is paralyzing.

Semi-related tangent... During the "how to be a better teacher" lectures, professors were told that they should call on women as often as men. Unfortunately, my computer science professor took this literally and would cold call man than woman than man than woman. There were only 10% women and thus each woman was called on significantly more frequently than each man, only magnifying the women's feeling that they were speaking for their gender, not for themselves.

Posted by zephoria at 01:58 PM in General | Permalink

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haha that´s funny! I study master in computer systems engineering in Denmark and I´m counting all the time! It´s always about 10% girls:)

Posted by: katrín at Nov 11, 2003 8:56:17 PM

good point danah. another aspect of this, is the effect that comes from the fact that woman and men are expected to be better at different areas. when the topics are of the more social aspects of cs the men tent to be more quiet and when it is on the more technical aspects its vice versa. this is at least my experience from denmark. (where we, as katrín put it are very few women). and as long as this is the case it will inevitably leave both areas with unexploited potential. sad?!

Posted by: anna vallgårda at Nov 12, 2003 1:20:17 AM

As a person with a disability, I was (when i was out in the world more than I am now) frequently put in situations where I was a minority of one.

Its interesting to me that we need to have a critical mass before we feel like we are represented enough to feel like individuals speaking for our own point of view rather than being expected to represent a class or subgroup of people. Yet, my experience has been that when there were enough people like me, other folks in the room felt we were over-represented.

And in a sense, I understood where this feeling came from. Surrounded by enough (whatever that means) peers, I had the courage to be uppidy. And lets hear it for the uppidy misbahving' kind of women we are.

Posted by: Vicki Smith AKA CalGal at Nov 12, 2003 1:44:56 PM

Its mob mentality isnt it. When you have significant numbers you feel like you can be aggressive with out consequence.

Posted by: Lucy at Nov 17, 2003 2:22:58 AM

I came up with a totally different theory of why there's a minimal comfortable proportion of people 'in my group'. I find that all groups have shifting alliances going on all the time, usually under cover of either joking or defining the obvious meaning of terms. When one group is maybe losing, its members start defecting by pointing up differences they have with other members of the group they're leaving. If I'm the only X, it's always easy to point to that as a difference. If there are enough X that we're not likely to all be on the same side of the original issue, that doesn't work so well. So I find that it defuses Xism not just to have a minimal percentage of X, but to have the X themselves vary considerably. Ideally any two people in a group should be on the same side of some issue they both remember, even if it's only liking anchovies on pizza.

The urge to define any trait as either required or unsuitable for X makes it much easier for each issue to strengthen the previous divides.

Posted by: clew at Nov 20, 2003 6:24:21 PM

While I do enjoy most of those (and other) roles, I sometimes worry whether I am letting myself become too scattered all over the place. My general attention span seems to be getting shorter and shorter these days, and I wonder if the many roles I fall into are a sort of larger manifestation of this. Being a generalist works for me, and I think it keeps me competitive in a world that is constantly changing. In some ways specialization = built in obsolescence. I have noticed, as well, that women tend to be better generalists than men (I am not claiming this is a scientific fact, just my opinion). Maybe this is because we have to keep so many more balls in the air at once. In any case, it is curious that generalists don't get the respect specialists do (hell, all you have to do is compare the buildings and classrooms of an English or humanities dept. Anita

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