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October 10, 2004

even the men are starting to notice

Via Anil, I just saw Jeff Veen's post on "What do these pictures have in common?" Be sure to click on the "See what you've won!" button. Like the first commenter (the lovely and talented Heather Champ), I wish he'd write the whole rant.

And please don't post any comments about how there aren't any women to invite; that's part of what our sidebar's for. If you ask, you'll get recommendations. (Look what happened when I posted about the Microsoft event.) Clearly, the people making the invitations see what they want to see--and they don't see the women. We're becoming increasingly invisible.

What's most depressing is that in every other profession in which women have been in a minority, percentages have been gradually climbing--including technical fields like engineering. Only in computing-related professions have the numbers been dropping.

Let's assume, for a moment, that the dropping number of women at tech conferences is an accurate reflection of the numbers in the field (it's not nearly as low 'in the wild' as it is at conferences, but play along with me). And let's assume, too, that there's no reason why women would want to work in this field--after all, they can do so much better as teachers or nurses, right? Even if all that were true, is that the kind of world that men in computing want to work in? One in which they almost never see a female face? Where they have to filter all their impressions of what half their potential market through second-hand knowledge?

We all have a responsibility to change this if we want it to change. Women have to be more visible as role models, which sometimes means sacrificing--I spend a good bit out-of-pocket to attend conferences and use a lot of what would otherwise be leisure time to stay visible through blogging. But the men running the conferences need to make significantly more of an effort to look outside of their traditional circle of friends. It's not good enough to say "but I invited a couple of women, and they couldn't make it." And it's not good enough to say "well, nobody asked." Work a little harder, guys. If the first three women you ask can't make it, ask them to recommend other women that they know and respect. Work your network. Make some calls. Be willing to help out a bit with travel when you can (this is often a deal breaker for women whose employers won't support travel). Or resign yourself to a locker-room ghetto that's impoverished both intellectually and socially by its lack of diversity.

Posted by Liz Lawley at 02:05 PM in Events | Permalink

Comments

Okay, so who kidnapped Liz and replaced her with Shelley?

:) :) :) to both of you, in case that wasn't clear...

Posted by: Dorothea Salo at Oct 10, 2004 2:22:30 PM

I think that often even when women get to be speakers, they get sidelined: they are not the 'big names' used to sell the event, and sometimes may not even be mentioned in the publicity.

Take a for instance, a very small example: IPPR and NMK are jointly running an evening panel on e-voting next month (4 November). On its website, IPPR publicises two named men (only) as being among the 'experts'. In fact, there are two men and two women on the panel:
http://www.ippr.org.uk/events/
But looking at the IPPR website, you'd never know there were any women speakers at all. One of the men listed is not in fact a speaker (he's chairing, but is listed as a speaker).

Invariably, if women are named at all, they get listed after the men - and not for reasons of alphabetical order.

I think part of the reason is that the men tend to get hired first. They're the first people that are thought of. Their names then go out in the initial publicity, get posted on the website, go out to the mailing lists etc. And sometimes - often - there is never any second round of publicity, so women speakers don't get any coverage at all beyond the conference/event physical location.

But sometimes not even this reason seems to explain the strategy adopted by event organisers. You know that when your name is listed last, but you certainly were not hired last, and your name begins with an early letter of the alphabet, and you know for a fact you submitted your bio well before other (male) speakers listed before you, that something else is going on. I wonder what ;-).

It's certainly nothing to do with speaker performance. First, they often haven't seen you. Second (if they have), my own experience is that the official feedback from conferences and similar has always been excellent (for example, rating me by name above all other 'big name' panel members or speakers). And third, they're sometimes hiring you because they saw you speak elsewhere and were impressed.

I'd like to hear about others who have had similar experiences - I'm sure there are many.

Posted by: Louise Ferguson at Oct 12, 2004 7:13:20 AM

That's rather interesting. I remember my first real conference. I attended the session with Radia Perlman who wrote some very influential algorithms on tree spanning for networks. Thinking back I seem to recall more memorable women's names in the early stages of computing, technical women that is. Are the recognition slow to follow women's recent successes or have the contributions trailed off?

Posted by: Giao at Oct 12, 2004 11:09:58 AM

I wrote to IPPR about this and they have now - very promptly - rectified with a correct speaker list.

Methinks I shouldn't need to write though. And this is only the latest of many examples (in other words, IPPR is in no way different from others).

Posted by: Louise Ferguson at Oct 12, 2004 12:33:37 PM

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